Tuesday, July 27, 2010

[Unfinished] Action Shmaction Dialogue

Questions: Are actions things or relations?

Efficient Cause for Asking: It is said that all things are good insofar as they exist. It is also said that some things are evil by nature. e.g. guns, alcohol, prostitution, etc. Both cannot be true. Perhaps reconciliation comes from differentiating things from relations.

Statement: It would seem they are relations. For instance, murder is not a bad "thing" because murder is the process by which kills another with premeditation by some means. The means are a relation of the two persons.

Action as a Relation, e.g. assault
  • man Related to knife (mRk) = his hand grips it, the knife is gripped by him.
  • There is furthermore a relation between this relation and another object though:
  • (mRk) Related to victim = force of knife cuts victim, victim is cut by force of knife
  • where the force of knife is due to his relation to the knife and the cut of the victim is due to this relation, in relation to himself.
So it would seem actions are relations. Thus, we do not say "murder is a bad thing," rather "murder is a bad relation." This sounds odd in colloquial speech, being why we say "murder is a bad action." But the use of such speech is part of what sparked this discussion.

Action as a Thing, e.g. thinking
1. It would seem assault is a relation.
2. In thinking of assault I produce an idea of assault.
3. Ideas are things.
4. Assault is a thing.
5. Thinking is an action.
6. My action of thinking was a thing.
7. This thought is a pointer to a relation.
8. What of the thought about the thought that is the pointer? For you are now thinking about the idea as a pointer. This itself is a thought too.
9. This points to a relation.
10. And that thought?
11. Ad infinitum - so it cannot be the case.

Try to start over then:

1. Thoughts are things without physical substance or non-physical portraits of things.
  • E.G. numbers or my brother, respectively
2.

Cause Laws

Efficient Cause for this Discussion:
My question begins with my prior post on homosexuality. I wrote this for a discussion group because I was asked to head it. I'm also curious in the subject as my moral system believes it to be lust, lust to be a sin, so it is a sin. Sin is a will turned away from God, so I think homosexuality is turning away from God. This doesn't mean I believe the person does not seek God, I merely think that during times of acting on this position, whether thoughts or motion, is a time of turning against God. However, I see it as any other form of lust, just as when I have lustful thoughts, I have turned my thoughts away from God. That's why I fight against ideas that homosexuals should be turned away from churches or not allowed to be ordained so long as they acknowledge the sinfulness here. If I have a fat man, due to gluttony, I would still love him and back him for ordination so long as he understands I am not supporting his gluttony by loving him. I'm part of the Episcopalian tradition so this has been a major issue within our denomination for some time now. This is the cause of my interest in the topic.

Final Cause for the Discussion:
The wise man can entertain ideas. I sought out to investigate homosexuality from a scientific perspective. I've heard it supports it as "natural" from some and that there is no support from others. Most of the people have been either part of groups that are strongly anti-homosexual or had strong emotional ties to homosexuality, whether homosexuals themselves or friends with some. Personally I read the first chapter of Romans and as a Christian I say that homosexuality is due to ignorance of God both in thought and deed. This is of course if I'm reading it correctly and in accordance with tradition, which I think is correct, although this might beg the question with the schism occurring amongst some Episcopalian congregations. Honestly, I have fear if I should have found evidence that it is entirely genetically caused. This would require me to reread much and see if there is another possible explanation for such passages.

So I read and looked into articles and the research for the last 60 years. If you want to know how it went see two articles ago "Philosophical Arguments on Homosexuality." I got into a beast of an issue so I had to cut it short but I was left with the question of what do we mean when we say "nature?" I outlined several explanations and got a little into the issue before I had to leave. The whole "nature" subject became a question in itself that has continuously popped up from time to time though. My question is about the different meanings of nature and their relationship to the different types of causes, and if there are at least one that the two sides of the argument can agree upon so that discussion can be more fruitful.

Concerning the Four Causes & Science:
Francis Bacon argued for inductive reasoning being reliable for pursuing truth in the 17th century. Not that men had not done so before, he merely was the one to succeed, propelling the next few centuries of scientific progress. In his writings he says that all science is concerned with are material and efficient causes, rejecting both final and efficient causes. It wasn't until the 19th c. with Darwin's Origin of the Species that Final Causes were introduced to science via biological evolution; the idea that organisms operate to some end, optimal survival in given circumstances. The formal causes are still thought to be unnecessary, whether that means they do not exist in reality or perhaps they do but have no practical purpose or effect I know not.

Simply, modern science does not concern itself with formal causes. A classical example of a formal cause would be the idea a painter has in their mind for a piece or the blueprint an architect draws for a house. But when it comes to these ideas, plans, shematics if you will - I would wage modern science sees that these are constructs of matter and motion. Genetics. The human genome is mapped out and it is entirely physical, we can extract DNA, look at it, tamper with it, even change how a human being will turn out in some way. In summation, modern science finds that material, efficient, and final causes are enough to explain the laws of the world.

I've heard it said that formal causes can also regard some sense of morality. I have not read this Aristotle nor any other classics though I do not profess to be well read in some of the Medieval scientists on the matter of formal laws. All in all it sounds rather peculiar as the idea of forms was rigorously worked out by Plato, and although Aristotle has his issues with some of it, for the most part he seems to agree that it is the most viable option - merely that it needs tweaking in his opinion. From my own education I would disagree with this, as Plato says that the forms such as Good/Truth/Beauty are that which all things seek, making them final causes.

I realize this is all a jarbled mess. I need more time to think about this when I figure out what my question actually is.

Causation Station

Remembering Aristotle's Metaphysics because it came up in a few discussions I've been having with myself. First the summary, then the questions.

1. Science seeks knowledge
2. Knowledge is of causes
3. Thus, science seeks causes

Question: Are there an infinite or finite amount of causes?

Assume: there are infinite causes
1. If there are infinite causes, then science must have knowledge about an infinite number of things.
2. To know an infinite amount requires an infinite duration to obtain.
3. An infinite duration never comes to be (never ends).
4. To know an infinite amount will never come to be.
5. Hence, science can never know an infinite amount.
6. Science cannot have knowledge. (Since knowledge is of causes)

Assume: there are finite causes
1. Finite knowledge requires finite time.
2. Finite time can be achieved.
3. Finite knowledge can be achieved.

Statement: So if causes are limitless, then we cannot have knowledge, but if causes are limited, then perhaps we can.

Statement 2: The first argument can be used in a similar turn to show that there cannot be an infinite number of causes:

1. Either there are an infinite or a finite number of causes.
2. If infinite, then things would take an infinite duration to come into being.
3. An infinite duration never occurs.
4. Things would never come to be.
5. Things are.
6. Hence, there are not an infinite number of causes.
7. Ergo, there are a finite number of causes.
8. Therefore, knowledge is possible.

1. If there are a finite number of causes, then there is a 1st cause.
2. If knowledge is of causes, then to know the 1st cause is to know it's cause.
3. Either the 1st cause is self-caused or has a separate cause.
4. To suggest it has a cause outside itself slips back into an infinite regression (never-ending problem), so it cannot be the case.
5. The 1st cause's cause is itself.
6. Therefore, knowledge of the 1st cause is knowledge of the 1st cause.

Statement:
This last conclusion is a tautology (x is x) which is obvious to some but reluctantly not to others. I recently read a Yale academic journal by a graduate student who suggested, much like Kierkagaard I believe, that to ask for knowledge of the 1st cause resulted in contradiction. If the search for possible causes was logically exhaustive then I can see that conclusion, unfortunately they forgot that the 1st cause might be self-caused, that is that it always is.

Observation:
It would appear that there are many types of causes. We are apt to say things like:
(1) The curvature of the plane is what causes it to fly so well (2) The statue is heavy because it's made out of marble. (3) I visited the Himalayas because I wanted to see some abominable snowman (4) I caused the car crash because I hit the gas instead of the brake pedal.

Analysis:
Proposition (1) shows that the shape or ordering of the plane's parts is the reason for it being so aerodynamic. The shape and/or ordering is not the matter of the plane, that is, it is not the metal or plastic, although those might be factors, the claim is that the mere shape of the thing causes something. What I'm essentially saying is, one can touch matter, but they cannot touch the "order" or "form" of it. This is what Aristotle calls a formal cause.

Prop. (2) says that the matter itself is what causes the attribute of heaviness in the statue. We call this a material cause.

Prop. (3) uses cause to mean, the reason for doing a thing; the end; purpose. These are final causes.

Prop. (4) suggests that something behaves as an agent for something else; the reason for something occurring.

Sunday, July 25, 2010

[Unfinished?] Untitled Poem 2

Haiku for you
royal red hair here
playfully pry from pillow
makes me miss you more

song for you

Dusk is gone, dreams no more.
No more whispers, I implore--
Let me be a part, a part of this rapport.
Please let me up, have no fear,
Please Anselm, don't let me disappear.

Siren lady, lady luck of your sail's heart.
Ruby red locks, muse to whom you write,
freckles are stars to lover's cosmic chart.
Art like skylark, plays melody for sailor's delight.
But tell me, how will you pray?
How will you say what she needs hear,
if you don't let me up to play?

Did you not notice, her already healing?
Notice my abrupt awakening from sleep?
Or that you're once again feeling?
So let me write

...

how can i stop from smiling
how can i stop my heart from pounding
how can i say what i want to say
when i was afraid of waking up my heart?
i want to sit with you in the rain
i want to show you what it means
to live without restraint on love
can you help put these wings back on
show me how to fly again
can you wait while i tiptoe to edge
of life's ledge
jump to break a mold, of all that's old
that holds us back
to start anew, let God renew
whatever it is He wants us to
tell me if you want to try
let our faults die
do what we can by day
and at night let the rest lie
love-locked gaze at every stage
near or far has no sway
on what can't be touched anyway
for love is such a wondrous thing
invisible as it may be,
it somehow makes us want to cling
in a new way of being free.

Wednesday, July 21, 2010

[Unfinished] untitled poem

pixie prancers play on lily pads
fox fire hair, like wild whips
snapping to their spiraled steps
with gold flowered tiaras
and mischievous eyes

cannot catch such a creature
must dance with them instead
must ask the right questions
or so it has been said
they answer with a "Mayyy-be!"
while smile slides --------
like new moon in the night sky
crescent of

cycle of wane & wax
...

Thursday, July 1, 2010

Philosophical Arguments on Homosexuality

[charged to lead a group on homosexuality; did own research by pittling around]


===========================DEFINITONS==============================


Homosexual: having sexual attraction to only those of the same sex.


=======================SECULAR ARGUMENT=============================

(1) homosexuality is natural
(2) whatever is natural is good [tacit]
(3) homosexuality is good


REFUTATION OF PREMISE 2
A. Assp: whatever is natural is necessarily good OR 1. Assp: whatever is natural is necessarily good
B. cancers & diseases are bad. 2. sin is bad
C. cancers & disease are natural. 3. sin is natural
D. cancers & diseases are good (A & C) 4. sin is good (1 & 3)
E. cancers & diseases are good & bad (B & D) 5. sin is good & bad (2 & 4)
Contradiction Contradiction
F. Not the case that whatever is natural is necessarily good. 6. It is not the case that whatever is natural is necessarily good.

* This is a different claim than saying "whatever is good is necessarily natural." I might still make this claim in "some sense"
* Let no man nor woman use the "you can see homosexuality in nature" argument, for it always has the tacit premise "natural is good"
* A common theme is to cite 100 case studies of homosexuality in other cultures. Laughably,
I might cite 100 case studies for murder yet they accept the former and reject the latter as
being morally acceptable.

JUSTIFCATION OF PREMISE 1
x. 52% of identical twins are likely of being gay if one is.
* in comparison with 22% for fraternal twins and 11% for unrelated (e.g.adopted) brothers
y. If the likelihood of individuals being gay who share genes is higher than those who do not, then being gay is genetically caused.
z. Being gay is genetically caused (A & B)

REFUTATION OF PREMISE 1
i. If being gay is entirely determined by genes, then individuals having 100% of the same genes will both be gay.
ii. Not all identical twins are gay if one is.
iii. Being gay is not entirely determined by genes.

RE-JUSTIFICATION
y. "...then being gay is partially genetically caused.
* research: identical twins 52%, chromosome X28, chromosome cluster pattern of 7, 8, & 10

REFUTATION OF RE-JUSTIFICATION
m. things that have partial effect in causality can be necessary, sufficient, or have a role but be neither
n. if a thing plays a necessary role in causing homosexuality, then an individual being homosexual means that thing is present.
o. if a thing plays a sufficient role in causing homosexuality, then that thing's presence means the individual is gay.
p. the presence of these suggestions have not been shown to always be in homosexuals nor have homosexuals been shown to always have them.
q. the current research has not found necessary nor sufficient causes for homosexuality.
* Furthermore, Hamer (x28 researcher and a homosexual [so no motive to lie I would presume]) says his research proved little if not nothing
* In 2005 Mutanski repeated the test with a larger sample and found no significant different between x28 in homosexuals and heterosexuals
* However, it did show some evidence for differences in homosexuals combinations of chromosome 7q36, 8p12, and 10q26

ENGUARDE
* science deals with correlations and does not conclude with statements about necessary nor sufficient causes. Even so...

u. 95% confidence interval is standard for scientific "proof" in any research
v. test of twins was research
w. twin test was held up to 95% confidence interval

RETORT
* the end of science practically speaking is a 95% confidence interval in which scientists and everyday people alike stop saying "correlate" and use the word "cause. Even so...

i. id twin test was held up to 95% confidence interval (w)
ii. proof says 52% of id twins are homosexual if counterpart is
iii. id twins to a 95% confidence interval shows 52% of id twins are homosexual if counterpart is
iv. id twins have 100% of the same genes
v. cannot be said homosexuality is completely genetically causal, partial is still possible but not proven



======================UNDERSTANDING THE CONCLUSION======================================

POSSIBILITIES THAT CAN STILL MEAN CAUSALITY

* Whether or not genes are expressed (genotype vs phenotype) is a matter of penetrance.
* The amount of expression of the gene can change the quantity or quality of the gene's expression.
* Assuming such a gene exists, these can explain slightly effeminate to super-fab homosexuality as well as bisexuality
* Epigenetics suggests certain genes get "turned on or off" from non-genetic factors (e.g. environment, nurture, action, etc.)
* this field of genetics is in serious research mode right now, check out The Outsider magazine's article on long distance human running genes



WHAT TO BE AWARE OF

* because a thing is possible does not mean it is actual
EG.1 "It's possible I can fly but that doesn't mean I can."
EG.2 "It's possible coffee caused me to stay up all night but that doesn't mean it did."
* burden of proof is upon the person making the claim because that person is the one asserting truth of the proposition
EG.1 "Crocodile gods once ruled Egypt with an iron claw and 80's jump suits."
EG.2 "Every night I swim across the clouds with packs of angel dingos."
* because a thing cannot be disproven does not mean it is true
EG.1 "If you can't disprove God's existence then He must exist.
EG.2 "It's possible homosexuality is caused by genes in some part and we haven't discovered its penetrance likelihood and/or a trigger for it yet."



===========================DISCUSSION: ASSUME PARTIAL CAUSALITY=============================

For the sake of discussion: (hypothalamus research)

(1) ASSP: partial genetic causality has been found for homosexuality -- that is to say it is in some way 'natural'
(2) If penetrance, then homosexuality might be along the lines of eye color or hand coordination.
* How would you read Scripture? Change your ideas? Why or why not?
(3) If something along the lines of epigenetics, then it could be turned on or off.
* If turned on/off by habitual actions (e.g. sheer will power and/or repeated action)
* If turned on/off by environmental factors (e.g. overdose of estrogen or lack of testosterone during pregnancy; multiple sons)
* If turned on/off by nurturing factors (e.g. something Oedipusian or Freudian)
THEN -- would you change your ideas? Justify your claim.



===========================NATURAL ARGUMENT REVISITED===============================

* If we are to deal with what is "natural," then we need to specify if it is "naturally good" or "naturally bad" since "natural" unqualified is not necessarilY either.




EVOLUTIONARY STANDPOINT

(i) If a trait increases the likelihood of survival, then it is "naturally good" and if one prohibits the likelihood of survival then it is "naturally bad."
(ii) Homosexuality prevents the survival of a species
A. homosexuality prevents reproduction.
B. reproduction is necessary for the survival of a species
C. homosexuality prevents the survival of a species
(iii) Homosexuality is naturally bad. (i & ii)

&

(x) Some theories suggest the gay gene was advantageous to primitive humans as "gay uncle caretakers" or actually a "bisexual gene to trick alpha males so they can get the women while the other men hunt gene."
(y) If these are the case, then the gay gene would be advantageous.
(z) ...

Problem: No conclusion can be drawn from the second argument because such theories are possibilities with no scientific evidence. We cannot say any ARE the case, so the THEN of the statement cannot be said to follow. Dawkins makes me giggle with these theories though.If one of these theories can be proven scientifically, then it would come to pass that we have an antinomy in which we have two arguments that have contradictory conclusions. Neither in this case disproves the other, since arguments disprove premises, not conclusions. In such a case further research would need to be done to disprove one. If it be the bisexual gene that evolved into a homosexual gene then there never was an advantageous homosexual gene, merely an advantageous bisexual gene. Even then we must ask why it evolved into a gene that is not advantageous. And if this be the case then the first argument still holds water.




ETHICAL STANDPOINT (different approach to nature)

(1) If an action is good or evil, then it is due to the action being in part controlled or willed by the individual.
* contrapositive: "if something is uncontrollable, then it is neither good nor evil"
* This does not mean the individual is amoral, merely the action is amoral
* EG: Digestion is neither good nor evil, it is an involuntary action. Murder is evil, it requires a will by definition.
(2) Homosexuality is due to an uncontrollable genetic nature. (ASSP)
(3) Homosexuality is neither good nor evil.




ETHICAL COUNTER-ARGUMENT
(1) Homosexuality is due to a nature being triggered.
(2) If the trigger occurred during pregnancy other environmental factors the individual was born into, then the expression of the nature could be controlled.
* this is to say that it was mere potential and not actualized nature, or possibility not actuality
(3) If the trigger occurred due to actions of the individuals own will and/or habituated actions, then the expression of the nature could be controlled.
(4) If (2), then the expression was caused by someone other than the individual.
(5) If (3), then the expression was caused by the individual.
(6) If (4), then the individual is not at fault and cannot be said to be good nor evil by the "ethical standpoint argument."
(7) If (5), then the individual is at fault and can be said to be good or evil


(2) Homosexuality in some part is genetically caused. (ASSP)
(3) The person cannot be morally blamed for their homosexuality.
* EG: A person driving down the road hits a child. They are a cause of the child's death, but so is the child. Assuming the person followed all laws we say the driver was an accidental cause and not morally at fault for the child's death, though physically he assisted in the causation of the death.
* QUESTION: What types of triggering actions could the individual be held accountable for? How much are they responsible if their gene makes them susceptible to the change whereas the same action by another individual would not experience the change?



======================PROBLEM WITH SOCIAL/ETHICAL DARWINISM FROM A LOGICAL STANDPOINT=================================

Most of it commits the appeal to nature fallacy(1), naturalistic fallacy(2), and/or the is-ought problem (3).

1. Merely because a thing is natural doesn't necessitate it is good, QED in first example.
2. Equating nature with good often results in empty tautologies / circular reasoning.
Q: What's nature?
A: Whatever is good.
Q: Well what's good?
A: Whatever is natural.
3. We cannot logically draw an imperative conclusion from a series of observatory is-statements.
1. blah blah is the case.
2. If blah blah is the case then we just can't be havin' that now can we?
3. we ought to yadda yiddy



====================================CONCLUSIONS SO FAR============================

The natural argument for homosexuality fails.

Science makes amoral, value-free judgments about what is via reductio ad absurdum by observational data. When people take conclusions and say "we ought to accept X" based on the conclusion, they step outside the bounds of their argument and are no longer doing science, and their conclusion does not follow from their premises (is-to-ought). Scientific conclusions may be used in moral arguments but ethics remains it's own separate science which cannot be discerned from any amount of discovery. One must either use some form of sentimental value judgment in beginning to produce an ethic or try to deduce some form of ethic which then might take scientific conclusions into account.


================================MORE NOTABLE RESEARCH==================================

The most effective research that suggests a complete biological cause or partially biological and partially pre-natal causation for sexual orientation would be those done on the neurons of the hypothalamus (INAH3). Those of heterosexual men were thought to be significantly larger than those of homosexual men and remarkably similar to that of heterosexual women. However, the sampling was rather shoddy work and many men were "presumed" to be heterosexual which could not be verified due to their post-mortem volunteering. The test was repeated in 2001 with much of the same sampling discipline but none of the results were statistically significant.

Hormone tests in the past have given inconsistent results although a new study in 2010 "Sexual Hormones and the Brain: An Essential Alliance for Sexual Identity and Sexual Orientation" claims to have discovered a completely biological cause during the intrateurine period when the fetal brain develops. There is nothing new about this hypothesis merely the claim that it has been proven this time. Time will tell.

Current hype about fruit flies that scientists have turned "gay." Only works on males and if other males removed they will mate with females. No research done on whether or not the gene which is similar in human beings will have a similar effect. Often cited as somehow conclusive, another poor natural argument not to mention it has forced bisexual behavior at best and even then it doesn't apply to humans (categorical error I would think depending on DNA similarity).



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===================================HOLY ASSUMPTIONS====================================
=======================================================================================

Inerrancy of Scripture

==========================RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT========================
Romans 1:26-28
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections; for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient."

ROMANS ARGUMENT
1. Homosexual lusts and acts are against nature.
2. Whatever is against nature is against God. [tacit]
3. Homosexual lusts and acts are against God.
4. Whatever is against God is evil.
5. Homosexual lusts and acts are evil.

COUNTER-ARGUMENT
1. It is not the case that whatever is natural is necessarily good.
2. Whatever is not necessarily good is not of God. *something wrong with this? wording? soundness?
3. It is not the case that whatever is natural is necessarily of God.
* refutation of ROMANS-arg (2)

RESPONSE to COUNTER-ARGUMENT
ASSP: Whatever is not necessarily good is not of God.
1. Sex is bad outside of a marriage covenant.
2. Sex is good inside one.
3. Anything that is bad in some situations and good in others is not necessarily good.
4. Sex isn't necessarily good.
5. Sex is not of God.
6. God made sex.
7. Sex is both of and not of God.
* Contradiction
8. It's not the case that Whatever is not necessarily good is not necessarily of God.

ARGUMENT
7. It's not the case that whatever is necessarily good is of God [double negation]
8. If (7), then good and God are separate * Euthyphro's Paradox
9. If good and God are separate, then things are good because God says so or God follows the good.
10. If things are good because God says so, then the good is arbitrary, not necessary.
11. If God follows the good, then he is not the ultimate thing.
12. Good is necessary, not arbitrary.
13. God is ultimate thing.
14. Not the case that good and God are separate. (MT of 10, 11 using 12, 13)
15. Whatever is necessarily good is necessarily of God. (MT of 8, using 14)


===========================ANTINOMY & OTHER PROBLEMS================================================

8 & 15 are contradictory.
8 must be true because to assume otherwise results in contradiction.
8 results in contradiction if held true at 15

To hold 8 true or false ends up in contradiction, a paradox
Most paradoxes are results of asking the wrong question or stating things in such a way that it is a self-refuting statement.

*** Whatever is not necessarily good is not of God. ***
add a necessarily of God - this accounts for perversion of that which God created as well as bringing man-made things to goodness
*** Whatever is not necessarily good is not necessarily of God. ***

Something is wrong with my wording and particular use of necessary as applied to these two different words. I need to deal with this but it's unnecessary :) to do so right now. For there is yet another problem I have noticed:


The two sides of the argument seem to be using the word "nature" differently:


DEFINITION DISCUSSION
EG.1 I enjoy viewing nature.
EG.2 Nature is the subject of hard sciences.
EG.3 It is the nature of fire to burn.
EG.4 It is the nature of a cup to hold liquid.

Nature(1): wilderness; environment
Nature(2): physical cosmos; everything that materially "is"
Nature(3): essential properties of a thing (analytic knowledge)
Nature(4): purpose of a thing; telos

============================Short lesson on causality===============================

Aristotle
4 types: final, efficient, formal, material
E.G. An Urn's causes are to hold water, artist, circle, clay - respectively.
Christian says our causes are to be w/ God, parents, soul/spirit, sperm/egg - respectively
Francis Bacon and the introduction of inductive reasoning and the birth of hard sciences in 1500's sought to reject formal and final causes
from an evolutionary standpoint we might say final cause of any thing is to survive
I would uphold the formal causes from a molecular standpoint, order of matter can change elements, compounds, etc.
e.g. trans-fats vs other fats, same elements in play, the difference is the ordering of them (bent connection vs straight)

1. "It's natural" in pro-homoexual argument uses genes as Nature(3)
2. Nature(4) from genetic standpoint is always "for survival in such and such circumstances" and is caused by Nature(3)
3. Pro-homosexual arguments then want to say the root of Nature(4) is Nature(3) which is genetic.

x. "Natural use" in Romans uses sex as Nature(4)
y. Nature(4) from religious standpoint is always "to bring about communion with God."
z. "Natural use" of sex in Romans is to bring about communion with God.


=======================Christian Nature(3) Pro-Homosexual Argument=================================
A - original sin gives me a nature to sin ( "sin nature" )
B - Nature(3) cannot be changed. (essential not accidental qualities)
1. nature is of essential qualities
2. essenial qualities are necessary qualities of a thing
3. necessity of a thing is what makes a thing itself
4. nature is what makes a thing itself
5. if nature could change, then a thing would not be itself
6. a thing cannot be other than itself (principle of identity: x can never be not-x)
7. nature cannot change (mt 5,6)
C - One cannot be held accountable for what cannot be changed.
D - One cannot be held accountable for their nature.
E - Person X's homosexuality is due to their sin nature [Nature(3)]
F - Person X cannot be held accountable for their homosexuality.


REFUTATION OF SIN-NATURE
1. Only God can create.
2. Man is not God.
3. Thus, man cannot create.
4. God created our Nature(3).
5. If "Sin nature" exists, then either God created an evil Nature(3) or we did.
--- 6. ASSP: God created evil Nature(3)
| 7. Evil is the privation of Good.
| 8. God is Good.
| 9. If something creates an evil Nature(3), then the creator is also evil.
| 10. God is evil (6, 9)
| 11. God is Good and Evil (8, 10)
| *Contradiction
--- 12. Reject ASSP: It is not the case that God created evil Nature(3).
13. We did not create an evil Nature(3) (DS 3, 5)
14. Neither we nor God created an evil Nature(3). (Conj 12, 13)
15. There is no "sin nature." (MT 5, 14)


We end here. There is still much discussion on what "nature" means and what types of causality exist in reality, as well as research to be done genetically. I'll conclude that there is no evidence to suggest full causality, only partial, but even then the question of accountability, of whether or not it is a choice or due to environmental factors is left open. In one collegiate psychology of sexuality textbook their conclusion was that none of the traditional environmental factors have been shown to determine sexuality. They suggested biological factors should be researched, that perhaps an answer would lie there. This is tandem with the human genome project and the geneticists claim that there is no gene that fully determines sexuality, neither sufficiently nor necessarily, leaves geneticists pointing at psychologists hoping or answers. Unfortunately that leaves us with two sides pointing at the other and with us either shrugging in confusion or realizing the answer must lie elsewhere.







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Philosophical Principles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessary_and_sufficient
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality#Necessary_and_sufficient_causes
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume-moral/#io
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is-ought_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

Philosophical/Scientifc Principles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contradiction
* I use this type of argument once and it is the foundation for the scientific method. Know it before you say "science is" or "science says"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

Genetic Principles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetrance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_%28genetics%29
Homosexual Studies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_and_sexual_orientation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_and_sexual_orientation
http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/253/5023/1034
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation#Modern_survey_results

Value Judgment Articles Citing Cases & Making Arguments
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus3.htm
http://creation.com/creationism-and-the-problem-of-homosexual-behaviour
* has good research sources on other factors effecting homosexuality, however, most sources are pre-Genome project so not up-to-date
http://anglicansamizdat.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/richard-dawkins-explains-how-the-gay-gene-was-preserved/ [video]
* Pretty funny actually. Dawkins cracks me up. He does do a good job at the end of noting the necessary conditions if a gene exists though.